Contributor Improvement Program Rules

Learn more about the Contributor Improvement Program (CIP). Start here to get advice from the community to edit and improve your submissions in order to exit the CIP.

Rules:

Always follow the Community Guidelines when posting. If you violate the Community Guidelines, your will be subject to disciplinary action at staff discretion, consisting of minimum one day (24 hour) suspension from the forums. Suspension may be longer, depending on the severity of the infraction.

All threads within this forum should be about helping a improve their database submissions. Please only respond to comments in this subforum if you have kind and helpful advice. Rude or dismissive responses may result in a forum suspension.

Frequently Asked Questions:

What is the CIP?
Review our Contributor Improvement Program Guidelines for a complete explanation of the CIP.

Where can I get assistance?
Here! Ask a question and be sure to link to the release you have questions about. You can also ask for assistance in the Database Mentors and Protégés Group.

How do I get votes on my submissions?
You can ask for votes in the Voting and Checking Forum thread.

http://www.discogs.sie.com/help/cip_list

Link to the CIP

Hi,I need help...I'm on the CIP and I don't know how to go off the Cip. I think that I'm on the Cip because my english is bad and I could have do some error in my submission...but now I have some lp and 45 to submit so what I have to do to go out the CIP?
Thanks and sorry for my english and if you want you can send me an answer in a message..thanks

gabryolly, looking at your 3 pending releases, it appears that you need to have a good read of the guidelines, not least on How To Use Capital Letters for song titles i.e. Conway Twitty - mona lisa => Mona Lisa.

Yes I have see and I have understand which error I have do on my submission...but now what I have to do new submission?

gabryolly
Thanks and sorry for my english

You should find help in this Group http://www.discogs.sie.com/group/766 "Il forum ITALIA di discogs. "

NessFan, is there some way of having a sticky thread with a list of non-English language Groups? As Discogs broadens its appeal around the world I believe this would help where s have difficulty with the English language.

gabryolly
what I have to do new submission?

You need Correct votes on your current submissions. When those votes happen you may be able to submit another release. While you are on CIP you can only have three submissions so they must be put right first.

Start by fixing your outstanding submissions. I believe the point of CIP is that you cannot submit anything else until you understand how to do it correctly.

I've made 14 contributions, but only 6 have been rated. Is there a difference between the "rating" and the votes?

Bonjour tout le monde !
En préambule, Je vous assure que je souhaite être un contributeur irréprochable, respectueux de vos règles et usages.
A la demande de l’équipe du label « LMLR/Culture Factory », j’ai inséré plusieurs dizaines des CD de leur collection «Vinyl Replica» dont ils assurent la publication et la distribution. Ça a très bien fonctionné pour la majorité d’entre eux mais quelques erreurs ont entrainé mon placement en CIP.
Après analyse des résultats de mes propositions, il m'est essentiellement reproché par certains de vouloir créer à tort des références qui sont des doublons de LP (évidemment puisque ce sont des répliques d’LP) et par d’autres de ne pas créer de nouvelles références pour des produits qui ne sont pas des LP.
Je voudrais bien les satisfaire, mais sauf erreur de ma part, mon statut de CIP m’interdit de corriger quoi que ce soit.
J’ai répondu à chaque remarque indiquée en retour de mes propositions et envoyé quelques appels à l’aide sur votre forum. Je n’ai pas reçu de réponse à l’exception d’un d’entre vous qui a eu la gentillesse d’essayer de m’aider pour un des CD. Toutefois étant totalement bloqué je serais bien en peine de respecter ses instructions et il n’a pas été en mesure de me fournir de solution à mon problème.
En résumé je suis complétement perdu et vous remercie par avance de bien vouloir m’aider à me sortir de ce guêpier.
Cordialement
PS: Si mes messages en Français posent problème je peux m'exprimer en anglais

Hi,I need help...I'm on the CIP and I don't know how to go off the Cip. I think that I'm on the Cip because my english is bad and I could have do some error in my submission...but now I have some lp and 45 to submit so what I have to do to go out the CIP?
Thanks and sorry for my english and if you want you can send me an answer in a message..thanks

Hello, I need help, I see'm in CIP do not understand very well that entry is in the CIP, or know how to get out of it, I'm reading in the forums, and I see that there are many people in my same situation, but neither find the answers to how to get out, I did not encounter any response from someone who has gone, can someone please explain how to do to get out? Thank you

I need some help figuring out how to get off of the CIP as well. It's been maybe over a month now since I was first put on it.. Don't really even know why.

I have contributed over 100 records from my collection and now can not go and edit anything in my submissions because I am on the CIP. I have over 100 in current submissions and only 1 total vote. Seems pretty ridiculous that I can't go edit records that I own and now people are going and editing them wrong and I can't fix them. I really thought this was the best site to document my records, but now it is making it impossible to add new records when I get them.

I've listed and made thousands of submissions on this and another - and am on the C.I.P.! It's a JOKE!

kingsleymole have all asked the same question: "how do I get off the CIP?"
The answer is very simple (simple to explain, that is) - you need to get your average score up. To achieve this, other s have to vote on your submissions. A correct vote is worth 4 points, so each correct vote will raise your average a little.
There is a dedicated thread elsewhere in the forum where you can ask for votes here.

VinylFetishes
I've listed and made thousands of submissions on this and another - and am on the C.I.P.! It's a JOKE!

went through some of your subs and left comments.
did your other also land in the CIP? you know it's forbidden to use a second to get around a CIP restriction, right?
though even if not for that reason, you are in the CIP for making many simple mistakes that a cursory familiarization with the guidelines would have helped you avoid them. please refer to the comments left on your subs and make the necessary corrections. once your submissions are correct, a correct vote will follow and you will soon be removed from the CIP.
the sooner you cooperate, the sooner you'll be back in action.

Hi thanks for that, I've made all changes I am aware of although it won't let me some photos, no i was u aware of using my other to get around a CIP and my other does not have a CIP. I think I have corrected all of the submissions I am aware of, apart from the Brian Auger One.
Thanks for your help.

Mozart*, Margaret Price, Yvonne Minton, Lucia Popp, Luigi Alva, Geraint Evans, Hans Sotin, Otto Klemperer, New Philharmonia Orchestra London* - Cosi Fan Tutte Hello, I am the CIP for several months and I needed to correct almost all of my submissions. One of them company, listed in red in my profile after an EIC vote can not be changed because I can not access it. I would like an answer as that to my requests for votes which are not considered. Thank you for your time.

Mozart*, Margaret Price, Yvonne Minton, Lucia Popp, Luigi Alva, Geraint Evans, Hans Sotin, Otto Klemperer, New Philharmonia Orchestra London* - Cosi Fan Tutte

Mozart*, Margaret Price, Yvonne Minton, Lucia Popp, Luigi Alva, Geraint Evans, Hans Sotin, Otto Klemperer, New Philharmonia Orchestra London* - Cosi Fan Tutte

RSG I Staff I EI votes I CIP (2times)
For this!
https://www.discogs.sie.com/forum/thread/724408

9kqzxu3
Mozart*, Margaret Price, Yvonne Minton, Lucia Popp, Luigi Alva, Geraint Evans, Hans Sotin, New Philharmonia Orchestra London*, Otto Klemperer, John Alldis Choir - Cosi Fan Tutte

I looked at that sub (needs changes: the ANV for the orchestra is in the tracks field and the cat.nr. after the series should be removed).
Unfortunately I do not quite understand what you want us to do. Why could you not edit that submission yourself? It is blocked for you?

Mozart*, Margaret Price, Yvonne Minton, Lucia Popp, Luigi Alva, Geraint Evans, Hans Sotin, Otto Klemperer, New Philharmonia Orchestra London* - Cosi Fan Tutte Yes I know there are a lot of changes to make. I am CIP and unlike all other submissions that I have changed for six months, I can change anything on that one. I do not understand why? Bug ??? No access! This is the only in this case. Merçi give me your opinion and a track.

I used to do the job when I have to!

NessFan
Start here to get advice from the community to edit and improve your submissions in order to exit the CIP.

It would go a long way if on CIP could add images because sometimes this is the only way they can be helped by others to get the information correct. Why is this blocked for s on CIP?

Good to see a fresh forum thread here, where the other 'official' one for begging for submissions votes means needing to scroll through 8+yrs of posts!

Suffice to say I'm sick of being on CIP. Have been on for almost a year thanks to just 1 other 's bad vote for a ridiculous reason. I thought I was off it a few months ago cos someone did vote on my 3 outstanding submissions, but then I did some more and it turned out I hadn't been released for the CIP trap.

I can't make amends, can't add pics for proof, can't submit new releases, no-one bothers to make votes or leave comments for amending. I have just 3, yes 3, tiny changes I made to the 3 releases listed below..
https://www.discogs.sie.com/release/6286692-Greatest-Hits/history#latest

If anyone cares to review would be great! I'd be happy to vote and suggest changes to anyone else's, but - hang on - I can't, cos I'm on CIP!!

omawds
Have been on for almost a year thanks to just 1 other 's bad vote for a ridiculous reason.

You won't be placed in CIP for one vote.

avalon67
You won't be placed in CIP for one vote.

Yes, for one vote. I am new here and by mistake I ed a wrong cover. I was reported and even I corrected, I was sent in CIP without any explanation. I have 30 pending new releases and even some of them were accepted, they were not voted. So I am going to renounce to use Discogs in such conditions. I have a collection of classical music LPs from Melodiya, Supraphon, Ungarton, etc - from 1970-1990, and the majority of them are not included in the database (not even in the case of some great musicians like Sviatoslav Richter, David Oistrach or Leonard Kogan). On Discogs, Meloclassic, a label that issued over 100 cds with famous piano, violin and cello players - unpublished until now - is included in Discogs with only... 4 ! As long as I am in CIP I cannot add anyone. In such conditions, I have to keep the inventory of my collection in a more friendly software

omawds
thanks to just 1 other 's bad vote for a ridiculous reason.

You have had 6 votes, if the other 5 were correct votes, and 1 needs changes, your average would not be 2.00. You must have add more than 1 negative vote.

omawds
How do I even see what I've had the 6 votes on??

https://www.discogs.sie.com//omawds
Releases
Pending 3
Releases Rated 65
Rating Average 5.00

Marketplace
No seller rating
Buyer rating:
100.0% 14

Contributor Stats
Rank Points 19
Average Vote 2.00
Votes Received 6

Thanks jansenENjanssen, but can we see what those votes were on? We can only learn from our mistakes if we know what the negative votes were on...

Discogs has not any methods to help the contributors and their decisions are discretionary. No analyse, but only the decision to include people on CIP without any warning or explanation. That's that.

Discogs has not any methods to help the contributors and their decisions are discretionary. No analyse, but only the decision to include people on CIP without any warning or explanation. That's that.

Discogs has not any methods to help the contributors and their decisions are discretionary. No analyse, but only the decision to include people on CIP without any warning or explanation. That's that. I saw many contributors with thousands of pending submissions and no one deigned to vote them. A misery

omawds
but can we see what those votes were on?

If you have your notifications on, you should have gotten notifications for the votes. Do you delete the messages in your inbox? If not, they might still be there to see for what you got the votes. Otherwise there is no way to know what got the negative votes if the releases have been edited since.

omawds
We can only learn from our mistakes if we know what the negative votes were on...

I investigated and found:

EI Vote for your edit on Levellers* - The Julie EP
another EI on Levellers* - This Garden
EI Levellers* - Outside / Inside
and once again EI for another removal of ANV Levellers* - 15 Years

6 Votes received, 4 were EI, average of 2.0 should be two Correct votes.

teninchfan
I investigated and found:

Thank you! How did you find those?

jansenENjanssen I do receiving notifications about the votes, but never any comments about how to correct mistakes and was just dumped on the CIP without any clue about how to get off it.

omawds
Thank you! How did you find those?

Using "Advanced Search", enter you name in field "Contributor" and watch any of you submissions you were active at.

Please remove the Fuckin' CIP Block from a few months ago!! Please help me now!!!!!
I want to the Edit!!!! HELP ME!!!!

satoshix
Please remove the Fuckin' CIP Block from a few months ago!! Please help me now!!

For a start, you might like to watch your language, it won't help your case. We went through some of your pendings, plenty of have left comments in the last 2 months to which you have not reacted. If you want to come off CIP, you need to make the corrections required first.

Browsing through the CIP list, I've seen that there are some s put on the program more than 20, 30, 40 and even 50 times!! Are those numbers accurate?? If so, how can a like that would still be able to interact with the database? Let alone been able to get off the program more than 50 times...that seems like a task for a lifetime! :\

goncalobcunha69
Browsing through the CIP list, I've seen that there are some s put on the program more than 20, 30, 40 and even 50 times!! Are those numbers accurate?? If so, how can a like that would still be able to interact with the database? Let alone been able to get off the program more than 50 times...that seems like a task for a lifetime! :\

EXACTLY what I was thinking.

goncalobcunha69
I've seen that there are some s put on the program more than 20, 30, 40 and even 50 times!! Are those numbers accurate?? If so, how can a like that would still be able to interact with the database?

example: psygreg 35 9 days ago
https://www.discogs.sie.com//psygreg - This member has not been active on the site for more than 3 years according to activity showing, so how can they be put on CIP again 9 days ago? Or did they do 1 edit that was voted negatively and changed in the meantime? And has this happened 35 times in the last years? Would be rather odd if this was the case. Something is not quite adding up.
djhollywood 34 11 months ago
https://www.discogs.sie.com//djhollywood - not been active in 2 years
Maybe somebody from staff can explain how this happens? Diognes_The_Fox, maybe you know what is causing these results on the CIP page?

Yeah, those very high numbers have now disappeared. Only a new one with 25 times in CIP. Definitely someone has looked into it.

goncalobcunha69
Only a new one with 25 times in CIP. Definitely someone has looked into it.

but there is still that one, so something must be putting them there.

Hello, could you please vote my submissions? : https://www.discogs.sie.com/submissions#item=%2Fartist%2F1386762-Richard-von-der-Schulenburg%2Fhistory
Thanks

Would like some advice on how to improve my submissions thanks
Currently on CIP

https://www.discogs.sie.com//illektrik/submissions

Rimikado
Hello, could you please vote my submissions?

illektrik
Would like some advice on how to improve my submissions thanks
Currently on CIP

Hi, this thread is not mean to post for help, please post in:

NessFan
How do I get votes on my submissions?
You can ask for votes in the Voting and Checking Forum thread.

https://www.discogs.sie.com/forum/thread/172073

Hello, who wants to vote this release correct? https://www.discogs.sie.com/de/Die-Kassierer-Sanfte-Strukturen-Und-Mehr-Altes-Aus-Den-Glorreichen-80ern/release/2591589

martyn_flash
Hello, who wants to vote this release correct?

NessFan
How do I get votes on my submissions?
You can ask for votes in the Voting and Checking Forum thread.

https://www.discogs.sie.com/forum/thread/172073

jansenENjanssen
martyn_flashHello, who wants to vote this release correct?

NessFanHow do I get votes on my submissions?
You can ask for votes in the Voting and Checking Forum thread.
https://www.discogs.sie.com/forum/thread/172073

jansenENjanssen
martyn_flashHello, who wants to vote this release correct?

NessFanHow do I get votes on my submissions?
You can ask for votes in the Voting and Checking Forum thread.
https://www.discogs.sie.com/forum/thread/172073

ah sorry, wrong forum here... thanks for correct link ;-)

Hello, everyone!
Can someone please vote for my submissions?
I'm trying to get off CIP now, so please help me.
If let me get out of this state and I've receive help with this, I can submit more nice albums and rare stuff.

https://www.discogs.sie.com/release/6682645-When-The-Night-Falls/history#latest

I beg you! Thank you so much!

Unbomber
I'm gonna have to insist.
In the meantime, I haven't edited out much.
I didn't edit it with wrong information.

You don'tr add proper submission notes explaining your edits or giving sources for format edits and release date edits, not likely to get you any positive votes that way.

Unbomber
Seems ridiculous that I can't go edit records that I own. It was complete and utter nonsense.

The nonsense was caused by you, yourself. Your entries are not in accordance with the Guidelines. Fix them then ask for votes.

Unbomber
I think I need some help.
In the meantime, I haven't edited out much.

https://www.discogs.sie.com/release/6682645-When-The-Night-Falls/history#latest

I didn't edit it with wrong information.
But Now can't go and edit anything in my submissions because I'm on the CIP too.
Seems ridiculous that I can't go edit records that I own. It was complete and utter nonsense.
So I'm in a great big of trouble.
I hope discogs s can solve this problem quickly. I beg you!
Thank you.

jansenENjanssen
UnbomberI'm gonna have to insist.
In the meantime, I haven't edited out much.
I didn't edit it with wrong information.
You don'tr add proper submission notes explaining your edits or giving sources for format edits and release date edits, not likely to get you any positive votes that way.

https://www.discogs.sie.com/release/6682645-When-The-Night-Falls/history#latest

Here it is. Thank you!

A few years ago I moved into the Contributor Improvement Program (CIP).
I need help getting out again.
Every help is welcome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

klumpa
A few years ago I moved into the Contributor Improvement Program (CIP).
I need help getting out again.
Every help is welcome !

This is not the right place for that kind of request...

I've reverted the mistakes i made but don't get any votes to get out of Contributor Improvement Program. How am I supposed to contribute and add new releases if I'm locked out? Discogs begs every once in a while that we add as many releases as possible. It's kind of a counterproductive stand from Discogs.

I'm fairly sure you need to request votes on submissions you know to now be correct. Just reverting an earlier change won't mean a New Submission which may have never been voted on will get voted, since there are thousands, and much more of submissions that have not been voted.

Those with complete images confirming all the details of the latest edit will be best for asking to get voted. You currently have a 2.80 score, and 4.00 for last 10 days so have received some positive votes. I don't know if you need more positive votes or just wait for your latest scores to improve the overall. That bit of scoring is a bit of a mystery.

Ok please show me mistakes. And I will gladly revert them. I have reverted some mistakes and other times people have reverted them for me.

Sometimes I have added something and people contributed after so my contributions were right.

I don't get it...

Hello I a now since 7 years here to sell and now on the cip Contributor how can I leave this cip ?? My english is not do good but it try to understand . Now I got new cds that I want here release but I cant .

Zamundaa
My english is not do good

You are located in , you speak German? There is a German language group: https://www.discogs.sie.com/group/42 where others can help you in German.

I contributed with about 330 submissions during a period of the last 30 days.During this time I received about 12 messages with requests for changes.( About 3% of the total submissions!! Nobody's perfect). Most were requests for "MINOR" changes, but about 3 or 4 for "MAJOR" changes as well. These requests for MAJOR changes were about wrong Label or not the correct country of release. I consequently corrected my mistakes without any delay. But now I'm on CIP and don't know exactly why and how to get out of there!
I tried very hard to understand the system, but a master and bachelor degree in science seems not enough to understand.
Can somebody help me, without submitting positive votes on my submissions? I would not know what I got them for!

zarathustra48
I contributed with about 330 submissions during a period of the last 30 days.

Wow, that really is quite a lot in a short time! Is it possible for you to take pics of or scan your releases? On CIP you cannot added images, but you can those to an image sharing site like photobucket, and post the links in the release histories. That way others can better advise, and also helps to get correct votes because voters can check all has been entered as presented on releases.

How about those of us that were put on the CIP after being victimized by trolls? I was targeted by a malicious group of trolls, one of which was booted off Discogs because of his abuse towards me, yet his troll friends totally inaccurate votes stuck and put me on the CIP. If anyone out there cares to please check my submissions and help me understand how I made the list?

spinalflow
Please check my submissions and help me understand how I made the list?

I don't see much trolling or anything major. maybe file a SR?

Thanks,
Most of the trolling was removed when I filed the first SR, yet I am still on the list.
I thought I would try the channels discogs recommends before utilizing the staffs time by filing again.

why I had my list cancelled (Item #394170953) while this is still alive? https://www.discogs.sie.com/Various-Cosmic-Melody-Vol-2/release/7639706

hi mates, you blocked this https://www.discogs.sie.com/Joy-Division-Joy/release/2469112 that are ABSOLUTELY OFFICIAL RELEASE that came out attached to a magazine from serious publishers from that time. dunno how somebody marked them as "Unofficial Release" while they show S.I.A.E. stickers/stamp on the package. could you please be so kind to re-up them and stop blockinf the other "Stampa Alternativa" ones? thx in advance.

MIIIX
hi mates, you blocked this

Any item that is incorrectly blocked from the marketplace should be reported here https://.discogs.sie.com/en//tickets/new

jweijde
Albi.Cremahi mates, you blocked this

Any item that is incorrectly blocked from the marketplace should be reported here https://.discogs.sie.com/en//tickets/new

thx mate, appreciate.

I have edited a submission. Can I please exit the CIP NOW? Thanks!

Do you think I can get off the CIP now? If not, I might make new contributions up to the limit of three at a time.

Hi i dont think you can get of the Cip now , you have 62 Submissions pending all of this
Need correct vote

Okay, so I got put on the CIP about a year ago, and I messaged someone from the staff to remove it, and recently my side , DJColors, that got straight up blocked even though it had N-O-T-H-I-N-G to do with this , and was trying to distance myself from this to only DJColors, which I found offensive. I was told to fix my releases that had unanswered questions. I did that, I gave links to file submissions, links to CD information, etc. and I informed the staff about it, and they just responded to me "Here's what you can do to fix your releases" which I JUST DID. I told them (again) that I did fix my releases, and asked what's the problem. Nothing. I got no follow up after that. And they still didn't remove my CIP. Now I have no way to submit anymore releases and I'm pissed. Get me off of this CIP NOW!!!

RatherBe2000
that I did fix my releases,

looking at https://www.discogs.sie.com/release/10990519-Balans-French-Version/history#latest
someone said "iTunes doesn't do MP3."
you haven't responded to that yet. it seems that the file format that you used cannot be from the source that you mentioned.
Not going to look any further but if you still have things like that unanswered in your pendings, there won't be any progress.

RatherBe2000
Get me off of this CIP NOW!!!

How To Escape The CIP

Leaving the CIP is easier than it seems. In order to leave the CIP, you will need to receive enough correct votes on your pending submissions to raise your voting average. There is no need to worry if you have a large number of pending submissions. It is not necessary to receive votes on every pending submission in order to leave the CIP.

This is the link to your pending submissions for your . Click through the list in the column on the left side of page. Any submission here that has votes or comments left by other contributors will need to be reviewed and edited where necessary.

You can also use Advanced Search to find your contributions that needs changes directly. Enter your name under “Submitter”, press the “Needs changes” checkbox and then search. This will highlight any of your submissions that need changes.

If you need assistance finding what needs to be fixed or assistance with explaining how to make requested edits, please make a post in the CIP Sub-Forum.

Once these required edits are performed, you will need to receive votes on these corrected submissions. You may wish to consider making a post in one of these places:

- Non-English groups - if you need assistance in a language other than English
- The forum thread for requesting votes on submissions
- Failing all else, may be able to assist directly. If the above does not help, please create a Request mentioning this message.

When enough votes are received, your will automatically be reviewed by our system and removed from the CIP. This may take a day or two depending on system load.

https://.discogs.sie.com/hc/en-us/articles/360007185634-How-Can-I-Get-Removed-From-The-CIP-

RatherBe2000
Get me off of this CIP NOW!!!

Nobody here can do that. Sorry. As el_duro pointed out that's pretty much entirely up to you.

Locking this thread to reduce some clutter:

If you are on the CIP, please use this thread to ask for votes:
https://www.discogs.sie.com/forum/thread/759232

The list of s on the CIP can be found here:
https://www.discogs.sie.com/help/cip_list

Thanks.